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NAZIUFO.ASC this file courtesy of the Darkside at 314-644-6705 UFO's and the Occult Reich by TAL From: Nevada Aerial Research Newsletter P.O. Box 1701 Rock Springs Drive Las Vegas, Nevada 89128 (The above address is now obsolete. - Wol) 

In 1867, Wentworth Little founded the English Rosicrucian Society. He was in contact with the German Rosicrucians. Little recruited his followers, up to 144 people, from the ranks of the higher-ranking "Freemasons". (There are two sides to the masonic coin according to former British Intelligence agent Dr. John Colman and others. First we have the traditional "guild" Masonry as is practiced by the pro Judeo-Christian YORK RITE; Second we have the speculative "occult" Masonry movement which was integrated within the SCOTTISH RITE. The Scottish Rite came out of the "Rite of Perfection", a creation of Jesuit-Illuminists working within the Jesuit college of Clermont in Paris, France, according to the Masonic authority Rebold. The Scottish Rite was indeed revolutionary in that it called for the absolute destruction of all national boundaries, all family structures, and all religions which do not acknowledge the supreme authority of Rome, which has strong ties with the highest levels of Masonry via the Jesuit Order. A good example of this connection would be that of Guisseppi Mazzini, a Jesuit who served as the "deputy" under the Masonic Universal Grand Master Albert Pike. Pike and Mazzini had created 22 "Palladium" Masonic lodges to facilitate global Bavarian Illuminati [Jesuit-Masonic] revolution, which involved a deliberate plan to incite three "World Wars" to be followed by the implementation of a "New World Order". It is interesting that the first two World Wars were initiated with more than a little help from "secret cult" infested region of Bavaria- Germany. One of the lodges of the "Palladium", according to ex-O.T.O. Grand Master Dennis Brunnel, happened to contain within itself an inner lodge called the "Oblonica", which gave rise to the Italian Mafiosi in America. The Oblonica-Mafiosi was implemented by Mazzini, who was himself Italian. We must realize that these two MAJOR Masonic factions with their own differing agendas -- the YORK and SCOTTISH Rites -- have been competing for supremacy for over two centuries as to which of them would dominate world masonry. - Wol.) One of his [Wentworth Little's] disciples was Bulwer Lytton, who was a learned man celebrated throughout the world for his novel "The Last Days of Pompeii". He also wrote "The Coming Race" (Zanoni) which featured a mystical pre-Nazi group in Germany. This Berlin group called itself the "Luminous Lodge", or "Vril Society"... The book describes a race of men physically far in advance of surface humans. They have acuired powers over themselves and over all material objects. They lived in caves and would emerge to reign over the surface world. The most prominent member of the Vril Society was Karl Haushofer, a close confidant of Hitler, Hess and Rosenburg, who all belonged to the Thule Society (Thule Gesellschaft) that was founded in Munich in 1918. Thule was a neo-Gnostic racist group, which became a rallying front for the societal roots of Nazi thought. The chief architect of the Thule group was Baron Rudolf von Sebottendorff (Rudolf Glauer) who had direct contact with the Dervish Orders and knew a great deal about Islamic mysticism, particularly Sufism in all its aspects. He also had contact with Herman Pohl, leader of the German Order Walvater of the Holy Grail. Nazi occultism was a mixture of influences and a host of interrelated secret societies, including the Bavarian Illuminati, the Knights Templar, the Teutonic Knights, the Holy Vehm, the Golden Dawn, the Rosy-Cross, the Vril Society, the German Order and its offshoot, the Thule Society. Thule is known as the capital of Hyperborea, in the polar regions. Also known as "Ultima Thule", it was the gateway to 'other worlds'... The Grand Lodge of Vril was seeking to re-unite the ancient Aryan traditions and to make contact with the original super- human "luminous race" (whom they believed once lived in the ancient land of "Ultima Thule" or "Hyperborea". The Germanics were/are a very superstitious/occult based culture, and their occult traditions play a large part in their warped ideologies of racial supremacy or inferiority -- whether or not such occult traditions have any truth to them what-so-ever. - Wol) and to make an alliance with beings who have secret sanctuaries hidden inside the planet. The book "UFOs - NAZI SECRET WEAPON?" by Mattern-Friedrich brings out some interesting information, It seems that Victor Schauberger (1885-1958) invented a number of "flying disks" for the Nazis between 1938 and 1945.

Vangard Notes... We have seen a copy of a letter from Schauberger to a friend which states that he worked at Matthausen concentration camp directing technically oriented prisoners and other German scientists in the successful construction of a saucer. In this letter written by Schauberger, he gives further information from his direct experience with the German military: "The 'flying saucer' which was flight-tested on the 19th February 1945 near Prague and which attained a height of 15,000 metres in 3 minutes and a horizontal speed of 2,200 km/hours, was constructed according to a Model 1 built at Mauthausen concentration camp in collaboration with the first-class engineers and stress-analysts ASSIGNED TO ME from the prisoners there. It was only after the end of the war that I came to hear, through one of the workers UNDER MY DIRECTION, a Czech, THAT FURTHER INTENSIVE DEVELOPMENT WAS IN PROGRESS: however, there was no answer to my enquiry. From what I understand, just before the end of the war, the machine is SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN DESTROYED on Keitel's orders. That's the last I heard of it. In this affair, several armament specialists were also involved who appeared at the works in Prague, shortly before my return to Vienna, and asked that I DEMONSTRATE the fundamental basis of it: The CREATION OF AN ATOMIC LOW-PRESSURE ZONE, which DEVELOPS IN SECONDS when either AIR or WATER IS CAUSED TO MOVE RADIALLY AND AXIALLY under conditions of a FALLING TEMPERATURE GRADIENT." 

Schauberger and his son lived in the United States for a short time after the war, where he was reported to be working on a top secret UFO project in Texas for the US Government. Reports of Aryan looking saucer pilots are many. Long haired blond folks that speak German. It is interesting to note that the so-called "venusian" saucer design of contactees all look like German saucer designs. The Thule Society is still alive in the minds of neo-Nazi (Fourth Reich) occulists... Ivan Boyes [a Canadian Ufologist] claims that "after the war, the allies discovered that over 2,000 scientists from Germany AND Italy had vanished along with almost a MILLION people to the Land beyond the pole [that is, to Antarctica. - Wol.]. This is apparently what Admiral Byrd's expedition was all about. To hunt them down. The domain of the 'Arianni'. The "Flugelrads" (wingwheels) were noted in the secret log [of Admiral Richard E. Byrd]. These were the model T's of the German saucer design... Admiral Byrd goes back and tells the Pentagon and the President what he has seen. They order him to be silent. (This would suggest that prior to OPERATION HIGHJUMP, the Admiral and his crew may have sighted German disk activity over the polar regions... - Wol.)

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If we can be of service, you may contact Jerry at (214) 324-8741 or Ron at (214) 242-9346 Arktos The Polar Myth in Science, Symbolism, and Nazi Survival by Joscelyn Godwin [BOOK REVIEW] ARKTOS is the first book ever written on the archetype of the Poles: celestial and terrestrial, North and South. It is a hair-raising voyage through cosmology, spiritual philosophy, mystical experience, and the beliefs of the lunatic fringe which leads to startling revelations about the secrets of the Poles and the ice-bound lands. Many occult systems speak of a Golden Age, associated with an ancient race that lived in the Arctic regions. Much embraced by ethnologists and Theosophists, this "Aryan Race" entered the mythology of Nazi Germany with dreadful consequences. In a responsible and scholarly fashion, the author explores the origins of modern neo-Nazi ideology, its "polar" inspiration, and links with other occult myths including the survival of Hitler, German bases in Antarctica, UFOs, the Hollow Earth, and the hidden [subterranean] kingdoms of Agartha and Shambhala [Ref. to Trevor Ravenscroft's book THE SPEAR OF DESTINY - Wol.] Arktos is an important book which touches on the deepest mysteries of human and cosmic destiny -- and the eternal problem of good and evil Reviews and Comments "Arktos explores the tangled web of myths, scientific notions, and religious beliefs surrounding the poles. Given the fantastic and occult nature of his subject, Professor Godwin has given us a masterpiece of clarity and economy." -- Dr. Nicholas Goodrick- Clarke, Author, THE OCCULT ROOTS OF NAZISM. "Protected by his firm-rooted sanity and scholarship, Joscelyn Godwin enters deep and perilous waters and returns with astonishing news from the underworld. The creatures he encounters are not just imaginary phantoms, but border constantly upon reality and, in times of change, threaten to rise up and overwhelm the minds of a generation." -- John Mitchell, author of many books including, THE VIEW OVER ATLANTIS ". . . A fascinating work of occult history which manages to be as intriguing as The Morning of the Magicians, but which holds to a much higher standard of scholarship." -- Jay Kinney. Publisher, Gnosis Magazine About the Author Born in England, Joscelyn Godwin teaches at Colgate University in New York state. He is the author of Robert Fludd, The Mystery of the Seven Vowels, Harmony of the Spheres, and many other books and translations related to the Western esoteric traditions. This book is out of print and cannot be ordered  [ Phanes Press Catalog by Subject - Title - Author | Alexandria ] From Skeptic vol. 2, no. 4, 1994, pp. 58-70. The following article is copyright © 1994 by the Skeptics Society, P.O. Box 338, Altadena, CA 91001, (818) 794-3119. Permission has been granted for noncommercial electronic circulation of this article in its entirety, including this notice. For more information, contact Jim Lippard (


By Frank Miele


Ernst Zündel: Playing With Fire

A Canadian resident but German citizen, Ernst Zündel is the most outspoken and visible advocate of Holocaust revisionism. He is, interestingly (especially for skeptics) also the author of UFO's: Nazi Secret Weapons?, which has sold out seven underground printings. The book argued that what are usually described as flying saucers from outer space are actually Nazi secret weapons, still being launched from a hole in the ice in Antarctica... While some Holocaust revisionists operate quietly and seek outlets in academic or academic-like journals, Zündel unleashes an avalanche of newsletters, audio cassettes, stickers, radio and TV broadcasts. The sheer volume of his output would be the envy of any political campaign manager or television evangelist. His tone, however, in person, phone conversations, audio cassettes (which open with a trumpet fanfare that sounds like a 40's Movietone newsreel) is almost always calm and didactic. During a recent visit to German-American friends in the San Francisco Bay Area, Zündel surprised me with a phone call and invited me over for a lengthy and wide ranging discussion and interview. The word "Zündel," I found out, comes from the same root as "zündeln" -- to play with fire. The word, he explained, can have the connotation of either a spark plug (that which ignites something for a desired purpose) or someone running irresponsibly through the haystacks... Zündel will dangle a reference to UFO's or the wisdom of the ancient Atlanteans. If it has no effect, he just moves on. If it elicits skepticism, he blows it off with a jovial "for whatever it's worth." Given our early conversation on the UFO book, I'm still not sure whether Zündel really believes any of this esoteric stuff or whether he's just learned how effective pushing hot buttons is in grabbing the media spotlight and perhaps bringing in donations.

... ******* Ernst Zündel's Flying Saucers Index
Ernst Zündel has done extensive research into the theory that UFOs are really Nazi airships flying reconaissance missions from a secret base at or near the South Pole. We are not making this up. The following web pages detail this research. Samisdat is the name of Zündel's publishing company. Transcription of a pamphlet from Zündel concerning an expedition to find secret UFO bases. What's New at Samisdat? Three transcriptions and large images of pages of a pamphlet. Page one features many photographs of 'German UFO prototypes.' Page two has an interesting picture of a 'German scientist at work,' looking at a penguin. Page three has order forms. UFO Investigator Pass An official UFO Investigator Pass, complete with UFO spotting chart and questions to ask the UFO occupants when they land. Spotting Chart Detail of another UFO spotting chart, with directions about what sorts of notes to take upon sighting a UFO. This page has seen many visitors since late January, especially since pages like Rich Graves' Zündelsite mirror (now defunct) added a link here. So perhaps a bit more background about the flying saucers would be in order. Zündel's real beliefs about UFOs are not clear. Frank Miele summarized it well in his article "Giving the Devil His Due," concerning Zündel's book UFOs: Nazi Secret Weapons?: The book argued that what are usually described as flying saucers from outer space are actually Nazi secret weapons, still being launched from a hole in the ice in Antarctica... "With a picture of the Führer on the cover and flying saucers coming out of Antarctica it was a chance to get on radio and TV talk shows. For about 15 minutes of an hour program I'd talk about that esoteric stuff. Then I would start talking about all those Jewish scientists in concentration camps, working on these secret weapons. And that was my chance to talk about what I wanted to talk about." "In that case," I asked him, "do you still stand by what you wrote in the UFO book?" "Look," he replied, "it has a question mark at the end of the title." [...] It should be pointed out that one of Zündel's most popular books, "Did Six Million Really Die?," also has the terminal question mark. Michael Hoffmandescribed the flying saucer material in his book on Zündel thusly: Zundel the advertising man and media manager went into high gear, developing his controversial "Flying Saucer" line of publications. Less imaginative potential allies did not understand the tactic. They felt he should simply try and try and try again to pursue more traditional paths to public recognition. Some of them are still trying. Hitler's Secret Antarctic Bases Nazi Super-Weapons and the mystic secrets of the Aryan Hindu prophetress Savitri Devi were themes the public -- and even their commissars -- simply could not ignore. The 1970's witnessed a tidal wave of renewed interest in all things spiritual and Zundel was riding the wave for all it was worth. In countless radio talk shows, he held forth on spaceships, spacecraft, "free energies," electromagnetism, emergent technologies and the occasionally positive contributions those otherwise condemned Germans produced under the Third Reich in these fields. Periodicals accepted ads for flying saucer books that would have obstinately refused similar space for The Auschwitz Lie. "When one door is closed, another will open." By this means, Zundel established a mail order business combining several book titles from revisionist andFortean fields appealing to a broad base of free thinkers and truth seekers. The Great Holocaust Trial, Hoffman, Michael A., Institute for Historical Review, Torrance, California, 1985, p. 18. ...Zündel is wrong regardless of his opinions about flying saucers. Nizkor has much documentation of the errors of Zündel and other Holocaust-deniers; a good place to start is the QAR. March 13, 1996